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 The declaration of Lextalionis is a dire decision. In the event that a prince must change his declaration, he must forfeit a twin-weight of his reputation within the Camarilla, as the price of the scandal such a hasty and ill-though decision illustrates. Note: If you kill the prince that declared a Blood Hunt, the Blood Hunt stands until a justicar, following due consideration of the case, states otherwise.
 Recorded Media 	Recorded media of any sort containing evidence of our existence, is to be considered a breach of the Masquerade. As such, it may not be used to accuse another of a breach of the Masquerade.
-Hospitality 	In order to gain Hospitality within a Domain, one must present themselves to the Prince, or in the Prince's absence the Seneschal, in person. Modern communications conveniences and powers of the blood are not allowed to work as intermediaries in this.
+'''Recorded Media'''
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 The declaration of Lextalionis is a dire decision. In the event that a prince must change his declaration, he must forfeit a twin-weight of his reputation within the Camarilla, as the price of the scandal such a hasty and ill-though decision illustrates. Note: If you kill the prince that declared a Blood Hunt, the Blood Hunt stands until a justicar, following due consideration of the case, states otherwise.
-Recorded Media 	Recorded media of any sort containing evidence of our existence, is to be considered a breach of the Masquerade. As such, it may not be used to accuse another of a breach of the Masquerade.
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 <BR>
 <B>SECRET BALLOT</B>
 <LI> The Neo-Carthaginians need to be declared as enemies to the Camarilla.<BR>
 Presenter: Kai, Clan Ravnos<BR>
 It was voted upon and declared that the Neo-Carthaginians will now be seen as an enemy of the Camarilla.<BR>
 <LI> The Camarilla could benefit from the implementation of current technology. There is currently no responsible office to deal with the threat posed to the Masquerade by social media and the like. It is suggested that a Committee, or even Office, be created to represent those interests, to be placed under the auspices of the Justicariate as it affects every Clan.<BR>
 Presenter: Slink X of Annapolis, MD, Clan Nosferatu<BR>
 It was voted upon and decided that the Camarilla would look into creating a comittee or task force to address matters of technology.<BR>
 <LI> It is respectfully requested that the elders of the Camarilla establish a new Justicarial seat to be filled by a member of the Children of Haqim.<BR>
 Presenter:  Rook, Clan Toreador<BR>
 It was voted upon and decided that the Children of Haqim would not be given a Justicarial seat.<BR>
 <LI> After this Conclave, it may not be proposed that the Children of Haqim gain a seat on the Justicariate for one hundred (100) years.<BR>
 Presenter: Originally Peter Premsyl, Clan Tremere.  Though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Raphael Carmichael , Clan Tremere<BR>
 It was voted upon and decided that the topic of Children of Haqim receiving a Justicarial seat would not be banned for 100 years.<BR>
 <LI> The Toreador Extremis Boon is considered paid no matter what the outcome of the other votes of this Conclave.<BR>
 Presenter: Originally Douma Charoum, Clan Tremere.  Though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Virgil Deems, Clan Ventrue<BR>
 The topic was removed after the vote as it was decided that those Harpies and Elders involved in the prestation would settle it.  It was not to be settled by Conclave decision.  The boon was then declared paid.<BR>
 <LI> Those kindred who do not go through the Accounting as a part of the Camarilla who seek to join it shall be placed under Probation to prove themselves. This Probation may be removed at the discretion of the Prince of the Domain that they reside in after at least a year and a day, or by a Justicar with the sponsorship of the Prince of their Domain prior to that time period. Kindred who go through the Accounting as part of the Camarilla or who are already members of the Camarilla are not required to serve a period of Probation. This supersedes and replaces previous conclave rules and pronouncements regarding the Probationary Sect Member status.<BR>
 Presenter: Alexander Keefe, Clan Ventrue<BR>

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 <P>Kindred of the Camarilla were able to stand before Justicar Lotharius as long as they were supported by at least two Acknowledged members of the Camarilla to present items to be placed on the docket for Conclave. Not everything presented made it to the final docket; Below are the items which did make it on the docket and were not later withdrawn. Announcements independent of the docket items (changes in status and the results of investigations and the Judicial Conclave from earlier that night) are not included in this summary.</P>
 <B>PUBLIC BALLOT</B>
 <BR>
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 <BR>
 <B>SECRET BALLOT</B>
+<LI> The Neo-Carthaginians need to be declared as enemies to the Camarilla.<BR>
-<LI> The Neo-Carthaginians need to be declared as enemies to the Camarilla.
+Presenter: Kai, Clan Ravnos<BR>
-Presenter: Kai, Clan Ravnos
+It was voted upon and declared that the Neo-Carthaginians will now be seen as an enemy of the Camarilla.<BR>
+<LI> The Camarilla could benefit from the implementation of current technology. There is currently no responsible office to deal with the threat posed to the Masquerade by social media and the like. It is suggested that a Committee, or even Office, be created to represent those interests, to be placed under the auspices of the Justicariate as it affects every Clan.<BR>
-It was voted upon and declared that the Neo-Carthaginians will now be seen as an enemy of the Camarillya.
+Presenter: Slink X of Annapolis, MD, Clan Nosferatu<BR>
+It was voted upon and decided that the Camarilla would look into creating a comittee or task force to address matters of technology.<BR>
-<LI> The Camarilla could benefit from the implementation of current technology. There is currently no responsible office to deal with the threat posed to the Masquerade by social media and the like. It is suggested that a Committee, or even Office, be created to represent those interests, to be placed under the auspices of the Justicariate as it affects every Clan.
+<LI> It is respectfully requested that the elders of the Camarilla establish a new Justicarial seat to be filled by a member of the Children of Haqim.<BR>
-Presenter: Slink X of Annapolis, MD, Clan Nosferatu
+Presenter:  Rook, Clan Toreador<BR>
+It was voted upon and decided that the Children of Haqim would not be given a Justicarial seat.<BR>
-It was voted upon and decided that the Camarilla would look into creating a comittee or task force to address matters of technology.
+<LI> After this Conclave, it may not be proposed that the Children of Haqim gain a seat on the Justicariate for one hundred (100) years.<BR>
+Presenter: Originally Peter Premsyl, Clan Tremere.  Though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Raphael Carmichael , Clan Tremere<BR>
-<LI> It is respectfully requested that the elders of the Camarilla establish a new Justicarial seat to be filled by a member of the Children of Haqim.
+It was voted upon and decided that the topic of Children of Haqim receiving a Justicarial seat would not be banned for 100 years.<BR>
-Presenter:  Rook, Clan Toreador
+<LI> The Toreador Extremis Boon is considered paid no matter what the outcome of the other votes of this Conclave.<BR>
+Presenter: Originally Douma Charoum, Clan Tremere.  Though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Virgil Deems, Clan Ventrue<BR>
-It was voted upon and decided that the Children of Haqim would not be given a Justicarial seat.
+The topic was removed after the vote as it was decided that those Harpies and Elders involved in the prestation would settle it.  It was not to be settled by Conclave decision.  The boon was then declared paid.<BR>
+<LI> Those kindred who do not go through the Accounting as a part of the Camarilla who seek to join it shall be placed under Probation to prove themselves. This Probation may be removed at the discretion of the Prince of the Domain that they reside in after at least a year and a day, or by a Justicar with the sponsorship of the Prince of their Domain prior to that time period. Kindred who go through the Accounting as part of the Camarilla or who are already members of the Camarilla are not required to serve a period of Probation. This supersedes and replaces previous conclave rules and pronouncements regarding the Probationary Sect Member status.<BR>
-<LI> After this Conclave, it may not be proposed that the Children of Haqim gain a seat on the Justicariate for one hundred (100) years.
+Presenter: Alexander Keefe, Clan Ventrue<BR>
-Presenter: Originally Archon Peter Premsyl, though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Raphael Carmichael of Reading, PA, Clan Tremere
+It was voted upon, and decided that any Kindred who do not go through the Accounting as a part of the Camarilla who seek to join it shall be seen as a Probationary Sect Member.  This may only be removed by either their resident Prince after they have held their Acknowledgement for at least a year and a day or sooner by a Justicar with the sponsorship of their Prince.  Kindred who go through the Accounting as part of the Camarilla or who are already members of the Camarilla are not required to serve a period of Probation.<BR>
 ==2012 Conclave - Amsterdam==

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-Kindred of the Camarilla were able to stand before Justicar Lotharius as long as they were supported by at least two Acknowledged members of the Camarilla to present items to be placed on the docket for Conclave. Not everything presented made it to the final docket; Below are the items which did make it on the docket and were not later withdrawn. Announcements independent of the docket items (changes in status and the results of investigations and the Judicial Conclave from earlier that night) are not included in this summary.
+<P>Kindred of the Camarilla were able to stand before Justicar Lotharius as long as they were supported by at least two Acknowledged members of the Camarilla to present items to be placed on the docket for Conclave. Not everything presented made it to the final docket; Below are the items which did make it on the docket and were not later withdrawn. Announcements independent of the docket items (changes in status and the results of investigations and the Judicial Conclave from earlier that night) are not included in this summary.</P>
+<BR>
-<LI> The Camarilla should rescind the Treaty of Fire
+<B>PUBLIC BALLOT</B>
-Presenter:  Mikhail Petrovich, Clan Brujah
+<BR>
+<LI> The Camarilla should rescind the Treaty of Fire<BR>
-Justicar Lotharius called for a vote to table this discussion for a later Conclave. The vote to table passed.
+Presenter:  Mikhail Petrovich, Clan Brujah<BR>
+Justicar Lotharius called for a vote to table this discussion for a later Conclave. The vote to table passed.<BR>
-<LI> Individual Kindred who possess magics (thaumaturgy of any kind, blood magic, etc.) outside of their native clan, will be required to register these magics with their local prince
+<BR>
-Presenter:  Narbe, Clan Nosferatu
+<LI> Individual Kindred who possess magics (thaumaturgy of any kind, blood magic, etc.) outside of their native clan, will be required to register these magics with their local prince<BR>
+Presenter:  Narbe, Clan Nosferatu <BR>
-Justicar Lotharius called for a vote to table the discussion and the vote passed.
+Justicar Lotharius called for a vote to table the discussion and the vote passed.<BR>
+<BR>
-<LI> Any Camarilla Prince that abandons the Camarilla and joins the Anarch movement or the Sabbat should be globally bloodhunted.
+<LI> Any Camarilla Prince that abandons the Camarilla and joins the Anarch movement or the Sabbat should be globally bloodhunted.  <BR>
-Presenter:  Mikhail Petrovich, Clan Brujah
+Presenter:  Mikhail Petrovich, Clan Brujah<BR>
+Justicar Lotharius called for a show of hands, but there was no clear majority. He then indicated that the Princes should convene and later propose the idea and an initial slate of “Black List” names.<BR>
-Justicar Lotharius called for a show of hands, but there was no clear majority. He then indicated that the Princes should convene and later propose the idea and an initial slate of “Black List” names.
+<BR>
+<B>SECRET BALLOT</B>
 <LI> The Neo-Carthaginians need to be declared as enemies to the Camarilla.

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		+	Kindred of the Camarilla were able to stand before Justicar Lotharius as long as they were supported by at least two Acknowledged members of the Camarilla to present items to be placed on the docket for Conclave. Not everything presented made it to the final docket; Below are the items which did make it on the docket and were not later withdrawn. Announcements independent of the docket items (changes in status and the results of investigations and the Judicial Conclave from earlier that night) are not included in this summary.
		+
		+	<LI> The Camarilla should rescind the Treaty of Fire
		+	Presenter: Mikhail Petrovich, Clan Brujah
		+
		+	Justicar Lotharius called for a vote to table this discussion for a later Conclave. The vote to table passed.
		+
		+	<LI> Individual Kindred who possess magics (thaumaturgy of any kind, blood magic, etc.) outside of their native clan, will be required to register these magics with their local prince
		+	Presenter: Narbe, Clan Nosferatu
		+
		+	Justicar Lotharius called for a vote to table the discussion and the vote passed.
		+
		+	<LI> Any Camarilla Prince that abandons the Camarilla and joins the Anarch movement or the Sabbat should be globally bloodhunted.
		+	Presenter: Mikhail Petrovich, Clan Brujah
		+
		+	Justicar Lotharius called for a show of hands, but there was no clear majority. He then indicated that the Princes should convene and later propose the idea and an initial slate of “Black List” names.
		+
		+	SECRET BALLOT
		+
		+	<LI> The Neo-Carthaginians need to be declared as enemies to the Camarilla.
		+	Presenter: Kai, Clan Ravnos
		+
		+	It was voted upon and declared that the Neo-Carthaginians will now be seen as an enemy of the Camarillya.
		+
		+	<LI> The Camarilla could benefit from the implementation of current technology. There is currently no responsible office to deal with the threat posed to the Masquerade by social media and the like. It is suggested that a Committee, or even Office, be created to represent those interests, to be placed under the auspices of the Justicariate as it affects every Clan.
		+	Presenter: Slink X of Annapolis, MD, Clan Nosferatu
		+
		+	It was voted upon and decided that the Camarilla would look into creating a comittee or task force to address matters of technology.
		+
		+	<LI> It is respectfully requested that the elders of the Camarilla establish a new Justicarial seat to be filled by a member of the Children of Haqim.
		+	Presenter: Rook, Clan Toreador
		+
		+	It was voted upon and decided that the Children of Haqim would not be given a Justicarial seat.
		+
		+	<LI> After this Conclave, it may not be proposed that the Children of Haqim gain a seat on the Justicariate for one hundred (100) years.
		+	Presenter: Originally Archon Peter Premsyl, though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Raphael Carmichael of Reading, PA, Clan Tremere
		+
		+	It was voted upon and decided that the topic of Children of Haqim receiving a Justicarial seat would not be banned for 100 years.
		+
		+
		+	<LI> The Toreador Extremis Boon is considered paid no matter what the outcome of the other votes of this Conclave.
		+	Presenter: Originally Douma Charoum, Clan Tremere. Though it was clarified that he was speaking on behalf of Virgil Deems, Clan Ventrue
		+
		+	The topic was removed after the vote as it was decided that those Harpies and Elders involved in the prestation would settle it. It was not to be settled by Conclave decision. The boon was then declared paid.
		+
		+	<LI> Those kindred who do not go through the Accounting as a part of the Camarilla who seek to join it shall be placed under Probation to prove themselves. This Probation may be removed at the discretion of the Prince of the Domain that they reside in after at least a year and a day, or by a Justicar with the sponsorship of the Prince of their Domain prior to that time period. Kindred who go through the Accounting as part of the Camarilla or who are already members of the Camarilla are not required to serve a period of Probation. This supersedes and replaces previous conclave rules and pronouncements regarding the Probationary Sect Member status.
		+
		+	Presenter: Alexander Keefe, Clan Ventrue
		+
		+	It was voted upon, and decided that any Kindred who do not go through the Accounting as a part of the Camarilla who seek to join it shall be seen as a Probationary Sect Member. This may only be removed by either their resident Prince after they have held their Acknowledgement for at least a year and a day or sooner by a Justicar with the sponsorship of their Prince. Kindred who go through the Accounting as part of the Camarilla or who are already members of the Camarilla are not required to serve a period of Probation.

	==2012 Conclave - Amsterdam==		==2012 Conclave - Amsterdam==

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	==2012 Conclave - Amsterdam==		==2012 Conclave - Amsterdam==

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		+	==2012 Conclave - Amsterdam==
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		+	Kindred of the Camarilla.
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		+	Over the last few decades, the Elders of the Camarilla has watched as the modern world shaped itself. We have observed, not devoid of interest, the common practices and behaviors that marked the Camarilla in these times. We have witnessed the curious changes that became almost a trademark of many Domains, particularly in the New World. How fast this admirable and ever-changing new world moves.
		+
		+	One specific and disturbing concern has drawn special attention, and to that end a Conclave was held in Amsterdam on August 16th. The Second Tradition of Domain should be one of stability. The title of Prince is not one to be lightly taken and dismissed on a whim. The Masquerade, which protects us all, requires a Domain with a strong guiding hand. It is akin to a flock that needs a good shepherd, one that provides the flock with lush and vibrant pastures for them to grow and excel, and also one that protects them from the elements and threats. The Masquerade protects all Kindred, yet we are concerned that we have seen a continuing trend of frequent turnover of Princes. This troubling development threatens the Masquerade and all of the Camarilla.
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		+	Many respected Princes and other Elders of the Camarilla gave passionate speeches concerning the Masquerade, the Camarilla, and Princes in the modern world. The Conclave decision is that Princes who have proven themselves able to provide the leadership needed to persevere through threats external and internal, to provide the stability that can only come through time and experience, those Princes be distinguished throughout the salons and Elysia of our noble sect. While allPrinces are Exalted, Famous and Well-Known by their station, those who endure and show themselves capable of sustaining their rule shall also be seen as *Venerable in the virtue of maintaining their position for as long as their reign lasts.
		+	Furthermore, these Princes may bear the right of claiming the title of Sovereign Prince.
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		+	When domains lose their Princes too quickly, or Kindred treat the position with flippancy and disdain, it weakens the position, weakens the Sect, puts the Masquerade at risk, and therefore puts all Kindred at risk. All Acknowledged Kindred should strive to a higher standard and not to allow this to happen.
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		+	His Arbiter Eleganciae, Titus Petronius Niger<br>
		+	His Halcyon Excellency, Justicar Art Morgan<br>
		+	Lord Justicar Jaroslav Pascek<br>
		+	Lord Justicar Lotharius<br>
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	==2011 Conclave - Columbus, OH==		==2011 Conclave - Columbus, OH==

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+This page is an attempt to collect Conclave Decisions.
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 In order to gain Hospitality within a Domain, one must present themselves to the Prince, or in the Prince's absence the Seneschal, in person. Modern communications conveniences and powers of the blood are not allowed to work as intermediaries in this.
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